Mr. Ivo Saliger (alias Ivan Novak), engineer of the human souls, member and co-creator of Laibach’s strategy and theory since 1980, member and co-creator of Neue Slowenische Kunst between 1984-1992 and citizen of NSK State since 1992 speaks about overcoming the assumed impossibility of making an international career out of a country with almost no music industry structure, no support mechanisms, and some barriers.